- Spitfire List - http://spitfirelist.com - FTR #731 Interview with John Loftus about “America’s Nazi Secret” Posted By Dave Emory On December 30, 2010 @ 5:47 pm In For The Record | 8 Comments [1]Listen: MP3 Side 1 [2] | Side 2 [3] Introduction: For decades, we’ve accessed the research of the heroic John Loftus [4], author of (among other titles) America’s Nazi Secret [5]. In this updated, supplemented version of his 1982 volume The Belarus Secret, John includes material that had been censored from the original book. Much of John’s work highlights malfeasance on a vast scale, centered in the United States on Justice and State Department elements. Those elements, in turn, were executing the political and economic will of the Robber Barons–monopolistic industrialists and financiers whose collective efforts manifest ted as the Gilded Age in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. Curbed by the Theodore Roosevelt’s Anti-Trust Act, the “Malefactors of Great Wealth” (as TR called them) secured the passing of the Webb-Pomerene act, a loophole that precipitated much of the disastrous history of the twentieth century. Decrying what they viewed as excessive and restrictive “regulation” here in the United States, U.S.-based transnational corporations invested their profits from the industrial boom of the 1920’s abroad, primarily in Japan and Germany. This process might well be viewed as the real beginning of what is now known as “globalization.” [FTR#’s 99 [6], 361 [7], 426 [8], 511 [9] and 532 [10] present an overview of the reinvestment of the wealth generated by the American industrial boom of the 1920’s in German and Japanese strategic heavy industry. It was this capital that drove the engines of conquest that subdued both Europe and Asia during the conflict.] Seeking to dominate the global economy, the “Malefactors” sought to fuse the totalitarian states of Nazi Germany, the U.S.S.R. and Saudi Arabia, dominating the fossil fuels industry and creating indissoluble industrial cartels. Far from being brought to justice for their active treason against the United States, the Robber Barons and their enablers successfully hid their wrongdoing. John points out that, at the end of World War II, (Sullivan and Cromwell [11] partner and OSS officer) Allen Dulles [12] created a mechanism for covering up the profound involvement of many dominant elements of the U.S. power elite with the Axis, Nazi Germany in particular. That mechanism was an intelligence network composed of much of the cream of the Nazi national security establishment, to be put to work for the United States–ostensibly at least. When Dewey lost the 1948 election, that created a problem. From that point forward, there have been, in effect, two CIA’s–one for the Democrats and one for the Republicans. The Republican CIA incorporated the Nazi and fascist elements with whom Dulles (and members of the Bush family) collaborated during the Second World War. This element of the CIA does the bidding of the transnational corporations, often following an agenda that is not in the best interests of the United States. Much of the program highlights continued attempts at suppressing this information. While working for the Justice Department, John was threatened with imprisonment and disbarment for his investigation of America’s Nazi Secret. A documentary film maker with whom Loftus has worked had her financial records confiscated without explanation. (A Canadian documentary about Nazis involved with contemporary Slovakian affairs was suppressed due to threats of litigation by Slovakian nationalist, billionaire and uranium magnate Steve Roman, a business partner of Richard Nixon.) Program Highlights Include: The use of what was to become Auschwitz to use Silesian coal, German patent technology and slave labor and Soviet rail links to produce aviation fuel; the Nazis’ use of American corporate executives in Germany during the war; Frank Wisner’s secret government-within‑a government–the OPC; the genesis of the Green Berets–growing out of Frank Wisner’s OPC; the role of Allen Dulles in the founding of Saudi Arabia [13]; the history of the Muslim Brotherhood; the links between the U.S. industrial and financial elite and those of the Axis powers of World War II; the Bush family’s profound links to Nazi finance and industry; the Vatican’s pivotal involvement with the Axis powers and postwar international fascism; John’s use of a phone-card sting to help uncover the Muslim Brotherhood operations in the U.S.; John’s lawsuit against Sami al-Arian, that led to the Operation Green Quest raids of 3/20/2002; the Crusade for Freedom and the genesis of the Nazi/GOP connection; Henry Kissinger’s role in forging the postwar Nazi “freedom fighter” networks run by Frank Wisner and the OPC. 1. The genesis of the events and processes analyzed by John Loftus in his book could be said to originate with the Webb-Pomerene act of 1918. . . . . Teddy Roosevelt, arguably the most honest of the Republican Presidents, was the only one in the GOP who tried to bring the Robber Barons to their knees. He persuaded Congress to pass extremely strict anti-trust, anti-cartel, and anti-monopoly legislation. In 1918, the Robber Barons fought back, and somehow convinced Congress to pass the Webb-Pomerene Act. This little-known loophole permitted the creation of American trusts, monopolies, etc., as long as it was done overseas. Because of this loophole law, investment capital left America in a great flood, one of the contributing causes of the crash of 1929 and the Great Depression. . . . America’s Nazi Secret by John Loftus; Trine Day [SC]; 2010936158; p. 13 [5] 2. The Justice Department played a role in the actual drafting of Webb-Pomerene. . . . . It was the Justice Department itself which helped draft the Webb-Pomerene Act of 1918 to carve loopholes in Teddy Roosevelt’s “trust busting” legislation. This enabled the Robber Barons to establish trusts, cartels and monopolies overseas, draining America of investment capital, and helped to bring about the crash of 1929. . . . Ibid.; p. 51. [5] 3. Over the years, For The Record has featured much discussion of the U.S./Nazi industrial connection–much of it in past discussion with John and/or use of his investigative masterpieces. Exemplifying the depth of this connection is Third Reich’s employment of U.S. corporate executives in Germany during the war, aiding the Nazi war effort! Briefly interned after the war, they were ultimately set free. . . . During the Nuremberg trials, one of the prosecuting attorneys, the same Walter J. Rockler who later became my boss at OSI, discovered a German document listing the thirteen American banks that had secretly worked for the Third Reich during WWII. After his investigative unit was shut down, Rockler kept the Nazi bank list to prevent it from being shredded. . . . Ibid.; p. 9. [5] 4. More on these “resident collaborators”–who were briefly interned. . . . The German bankers that Rockler was trying to prosecute at Nuremberg had hired American and British corporate executives—who had then become the secret residents of Camp Ashcan/Dustbin. It was the Special Assistant Attorney General Victor Swearingen who had kept all the American and British moneymen hidden from the nosey Nuremberg prosecutors. Political smear tactics forced Rockler out before I could tell him why all Nazi financial crimes investigations kept getting closed down. He was getting much too close to the truth. The money that funded the banks and corporations of the Third Reich came from Wall Street and “the City,” London, England’s financial district and Wall Street equivalent. President Roosevelt knew about it, and so did his Secretary of the Treasury, Henry Morgenthau. . . . Ibid.; pp. 11–12. [5] 5. Some of the corporate criminals who were [temporarily] interned at Ashcan/Dustbin were quite confident of their acquittal, due to the influence of their corporate associates. . . . He was the Justice Department lawyer who let free all of the American corporate executives who had stayed in Germany to help their Nazi clients. These businessmen had literally given aid and comfort to the enemy during the war. All the striped suit traitors were held in a joint prison camp code named Ashcan/Dustbin. The prison camp was under British authority, but the guards were all Americans. One of the guards told me years later that one of the pompous prisoners boasted that his friends at the Chase Manhattan Bank would take care of him. “Are you sure they would even want to hear your name?” the guard asked, confident that no American business would ever help someone accused of treason. The prisoner was right. The guard was wrong. The Special Assistant Attorney General of the United States closed all of the treason cases in Occupied Germany. Not a single corporate officer ever went to jail for doing business with the Nazis, either in America or the United Kingdom. The Justice Department covered it all up. More than a hundred American traitors were returned home after many profitable years of serving Hitler. The Army’s original investigative files, codenamed ASHCAN and DUSTBIN are still off limits to “protect the privacy” of the American citizens involved. . . Ibid.; pp. 4–5. [5] 6. Henry Kissinger’s political genesis is to be found at the nexus of the U.S./Nazi postwar collusion. . . .Kissinger was recruited as a professional spy for Dulles shortly after the end of the war in Europe. Although there is no evidence that he personally recruited Nazis, Kissinger ran the intelligence file room where records of Nazi recruitment were kept. He then transferred to Harvard where he specialized in recruiting foreign students for espionage. Later he worked for Dulles during the glory days of Office of Policy Coordination (OPC). He was hired as a consultant for a private group known as Operations Research Office, which planned to use former Nazis as agents behind Russian lines in the event of World War III. Mention of Kissinger’s classified work was censored from the original manuscript of this book. . . Ibid.; p. 11. [5] 7. In addition to Kissinger’s work at Harvard on the Nazi “freedom fighter” program, the Nazification of U.S. academic ideology during the Cold War is exemplified by an amusing episode in John’s book–his raid on the offices of Alexander Dallin–the chair of the history department at Stanford University. While working for the OSI division of the Justice Department, John learned that some of the missing documentation on the importation of Nazi war criminals had been purloined by Dallin! . . . I found some of the missing documents when I raided the offices of Professor Alexander Dallin, Chair of the History Department at Stanford University. The terrified professor quickly turned over boxes of unpublished Einsatzgruppen reports, records of the SS mobile killing units in Eastern Europe. These records contained the names of Nazi collaborators from Belarus and Ukraine, men who had earned their spurs by carrying out the mass murder of their own countrymen. Similar records concerning Polish collaborators with the Nazis were pulled from the Nuremberg trials before the Russians could get their hands on them. The most distressing stolen document that Professor Dallin produced from his hoard was the unpublished memoirs of a senior SS officer, Friedrich Buchardt, who had written a history of the Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe. Professor Dallin had plagiarized Buchardt’s manuscript for his own famous work, Russia Under German Rule. Buchardt had been the leader of VorKommando Moskau, one of the SS mobile killing units which specialized in recruiting local collaborators from Belarus and the Ukraine as spies. . . Ibid.; p. 10. [5] 8. Buchardt’s manuscript was deemed to be so valuable because it provided valuable information for the U.S. recruitment of Nazi collaborators, many of them war criminals. They then went to work for Frank Wisner and Allen Dulles’ fledgling Office of Policy Coordination. The OPC was the vehicle used by the Robber Barons’ corporate lawyers to bypass de-Nazification rules and put the Nazis to work for U.S. intelligence–in essence, it WAS the “Republican CIA.” Among the war criminals that Wisner put to work for OPC was Dr. Franz Alfred Six, sprung from the defendant’s dock at Nuremberg. His sentence commuted by U.S. High Commissioner for Germany (and Chase Manhattan Bank chairman) John J. McCloy. . . . Six, however, was at that moment on trial at Nuremberg for his war crimes. Wisner asked General Clay to intercede with the Nuremberg prosecutor and judges. Whether Clay took such action is unknown, but Six received only a twenty-year prison term, while the rest of the Einsatzgruppen commanders were sentenced to death. In 1950, Clay’s successor, John J. McCloy commuted the sentence to time served. . . . Ibid.; p. 162. [5] 9. Wisner and Dulles’ “Freedom Fighters” program evolved into the Green Berets. . . . With the disbanding of the few remaining cadres of Wisner’s secret army, the Special Forces were taken over by the Army and became the nucleus of the Green Berets. . . Ibid.; p. 232. [5] 10. After reviewing the origins and nature of the Muslim Brotherhood, John related a fascinating gambit in which he and private investigator Bill Warner were able to “make” many of the Muslim Brotherhood terrorists in the United States. Originating in the investigation of Sami Al-Arian, the stratagem entailed buying phone cards for use by the terrorists. . . . . With [Professor Sami] Al Arian’s support, and financial help from the Saudis, Al Arian’s clan purchased a series of auto dealerships in western Florida. One of them was on land owned by Al Arian. Stolen luxury cars across the USA were funneled through the clan’s network to Dubai, where they were re-sold for two or three times their price by a car network run by one of Al Qaeda’s “golden chain” financiers. Older vehicles were turned into car bombs to kill American soldiers in Iraq. Two of the car bombs have been traced through the Clan’s network through their vehicle identification (VIN) numbers. A brilliant private investigator named Bill Warner of Sarasota, Florida, came up with an extremely innovative method of tracking the members of the Clan’s terrorist network. He approached me for a list of all Al Arian’s friends and clan contacts. Warner then sent out an advertisement to each of them enclosing a pre-paid cell phone card. The pitch was to try our new phone company’s international call service free for ninety days, and then decide whether to become a permanent subscriber. One of the idiots in the clan actually used our calling card. In one stroke, we had become the Muslim Brotherhood’s telephone service. As a telephone company, we lawfully purchased the phone bills of everyone our customer contacted, allegedly to recruit new customers. We used the phone bills to identify the clan’s overseas contacts, and then I cross-matched the phone records against the terrorist attacks of Hamas, PIJ, and Al Qaeda, all of which are subsidiaries of the Muslim Brotherhood. The results were astonishing. We had the calling records of the Al Qaeda cell in Ceuta as they planned their abortive attack on shipping off Gibraltar. We could tell that every time a clan member in California called a cell phone in a refugee camp in Jordan, a terrorist attack on Israel would take place that same day. Mr. Warner and I assembled a nationwide map of terrorist logistical cells in America complete with their overseas telephone contacts. We did not trust the Justice Department’s FBI, so we presented our cell phone map to NORTHCOM military intelligence. Despite our regrets, NORTHCOM had to ask the FBI for court authorized search warrants top lace taps on the phones and computer terminals of these terrorists’ supporters. The FBI typically rewrote the warrants as if they had done the investigation. Neither Bill Warner nor I ever received a penny of the promised million dollar reward money. As we feared, someone in the FBI tipped off the terrorists. They all stopped using the cell phones and calling cards we had been tracing they all went silence at once. Worse, the FBI closed all investigations by other government agencies into the Florida clan just as they had closed Operation Green Quest, the Immigration Service’s attempt to trace terrorist funding of Al Arian from the Saudis. The Saudis’ “International Institute for Islamic Research (IIIR)” is banned as a known funding source for terrorism worldwide, but like the Muslim Brotherhood, it enjoys a strange immunity from the United States Department of Justice. . . . Ibid.; pp. 263–265. [5] NORTHCOM ran all of our phone numbers through their terrorist data base. “It lit up like a Christmas tree!” The agent exclaimed. NORTHCOM knew that terrorists overseas were calling American phone numbers, but had no idea who they were contacting or why they were calling. Our little telephone company had provided U.S. intelligence with a nearly complete map of every terrorist cell in the USA and abroad that called the Muslim Brotherhood for help. 11. Indicative of the controversial nature of the material discussed in John’s book is the fact that documentary filmmaker Clair Ragge was raided by the IRS without explanation. Records and financial documents were confiscated. . . . During the last four years, independent filmmaker Claire Ragge has done a thorough inquiry into the newly declassified files on the men who funded Hitler. Her film tentatively titled “American Secrets” should be ready for release in 2011, along with a website listing each historical document sourcing each of the film’s allegations. Ms. Ragge has done a remarkable job, and has uncovered many secrets that would otherwise have escaped public scrutiny. . . . However, there is some concern that the film may never see the light of day. The IRS has suddenly seized Ms. Ragge’s bank accounts without even a pretext of notice. I have seen this sort of thing happen before. I once helped the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation do a documentary on Slovakian Nazis living openly in Canada. There was some superb film footage of the Pope blessing a new Slovakian Cathedral while the camera panned over the Nazi war criminals sitting in the audience. No one in Canada eager saw that film because the CBC caved in under the threat of endless litigation from Steven Roman, a Slovakian nationalist who happened to be the richest man in Canada (and Richard Nixon’s partner in a Canadian-American uranium mining business.) . . . Ibid.; pp. 19–20. [5] 12. Concluding with an anecdote about what John has endured, the program sets forth a frightening array of medical problems John has overcome, while waging his Good Fight against the Powers That Be. During the 1970’s and 1980’s, I had more than two dozen surgeries for broken facial bones and sinus damage from a parachute accident when I was an Army Officer. The VA missed a few things. In the 1990’s, I was also diagnosed by private physicians with colon cancer, prostate blockage, kidney stones, and shoulder damage, each of which required surgery. In 2010, the VA finally discovered that I had two displaced hips, several broken ribs, broken vertebrae and crushed disks, which they had somehow missed during the last four decades of treatment. The VA conceded that, more likely than not, these undiscovered injuries had been sustained in my Army parachute accident. There are third world countries that provide better medical care than America gives its disabled veterans. . . . Ibid.; p. 46. [5] Article printed from Spitfire List: http://spitfirelist.com URL to article: http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-731-interview-with-john-loftus-about-americas-nazi-secret/ URLs in this post: [1] Image: http://spitfirelist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Americas-Nazi-Secret.jpg [2] Side 1: https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/700_799/f-731a.mp3 [3] Side 2: https://emory.kfjc.org/archive/ftr/700_799/f-731b.mp3 [4] John Loftus: http://www.amazon.com/John-Loftus/e/B001HCW062 [5] America’s Nazi Secret: http://www.trineday.com/paypal_store/product_pages/Americas_Nazi_Secret/index.html [6] 99: http://spitfirelist.com../for-the-record/ftr-99-tides-of-20th-century-capital-flow/ [7] 361: http://spitfirelist.com../for-the-record/ftr-361-networking/ [8] 426: http://spitfirelist.com../for-the-record/ftr-426-the-return-of-the-rising-sun-part-2/ [9] 511: http://spitfirelist.com../for-the-record/ftr-511-uncle-sam-the-swastika-25-years-later/ [10] 532: http://spitfirelist.com../for-the-record/ftr-532-interview-with-john-loftus/ [11] Sullivan and Cromwell: http://www.answers.com/topic/sullivan-cromwell [12] Allen Dulles: http://www.answers.com/topic/allen-welsh-dulles [13] the role of Allen Dulles in the founding of Saudi Arabia: http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-361-networking/ Click here to print. 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So Let's pick this one apart;
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Good 'Ol Waco, a town just across the Brazos River from Bellmeade, and the Bellmeade KATY yard where I used to Catch to San Antonio. I never stayed in the Salvation Army there, always had an American of African Descent family that I would stay with while in town. The father was an engineer for the KATY Railroad [Now UP].
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I HAVE BEEN A HAM RADIO OPERATOR since 1958.
To be exact why not give all your HAM Radio info, NO!, how about letting me do it for you;
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Frank is the BIG SHOT up in BRITT.
That's the only TRUE thing you have said in this thread!
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DOF-MAN TONY knows me
Actually his Road Name is DOG MAN TONY, I rode with him many times on the High-Line in the 1980's-1990's, and I Know what town he's from in New York State!
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DOES FLAT-CAR FRANK RIDE THE RAILS?
Frank has only rode a freight train 1 time in his life riding from Klamath Falls Oregon to Dunsmuir California in 1992.
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DOES THE MAD-MAN RIDE THE RAILS?
I rod continously since 1972 with a short break for the birth of both of my sons. I don't ride now for work, ust pleasure, and remenicing of old days! Although I will soon be steady on the road to do My Style of a Hobo Documentary.
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So I am OBNOXIOUS, OPIONINATED. OLD. SMELLY. TALK LIKE A HILLBELLY!
You write like you're on CRACK!
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 02-23-2008, 04:01 PM
Lets start from scratch here. No I dont ride the rails. I have a a full time job. I Work for a living. I have ridden in the past, never did enjoy as much as I thought. I do like the history of hobos. I have been going to britt now for over 15 years. Why do people think Im in charge. Im not. Im just another person at the jungle. There are very FEW fakes that show up at Britt. There have been old timers and young riders that have come to britt. I've never claimed to be a hobo, nor do I want to be. If you can't handle that, too bad. I've never seen you contribute anything to the convention, so you have no right or experience to complain about it. Many of the locals and "hobos at heart" put their all into the events and exhibits, while I tend to see all the "real hobos" sit around and get drunk and piss all over the place. So, I've seen both sides of the street. Come to Britt and prove me wrong, Please!
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 02-24-2008, 12:10 PM
I spent the night down at the jungle with Stretch, Burlington and a couple of railriders named Rick and Carla. The jungle is looking good, the trash is all picked up pretty much. We burned up a large portion of the junk firewood pile last night, maybe about half. The idea is to get rid of as many things that would attract negative attention as is possible. Trash is a major negative attention-getter. It's like throwing down your cans at a lay-up---just dumb behavior.
Both Stretch and Rick are working. Stretch has a temp job at a refrigerated warehouse that ships juice boxes and non-carbonated beverages. Rick is working at a concrete plant filling up ready-mix trucks with concrete and unloading hopper cars full of dry cement.
They made a major food score at a church-sponsored food bank. Each person got a couple of bags full of groceries, so now the jungle has plenty of chow. By the end of the week both guys will get a payday, so things should be prosperous for them pretty soon.
Because they are working, but living in the jungle, they'll be able to raise road money quickly. Stretch is talking about going to Amory in early April, so when he pulls stakes it's probable that Rick and Carla will move into the hooch.
I think it's kind of cool having people living in the jungle who share my ideas about keeping a clean camp. The place actually looks orderly and kind of "well kept."
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TEX--ARE YOU ON?
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Yeah, I'm here, but have to return the DSL to the upstairs in a minute
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 02-24-2008, 12:54 PM
K-Bar - [ask Frank if you think I'm blowing things out of proportion] ANYTHING you can do to keep elijah666prophet, who is also boxcarro_a1, Off this board will hlp to kep it for REAL HOBO-TRAMPS!
Report Postto ANSWER AGAINST those who HOPE ME DEAD! DOF-MAN TONY knows me, & I WAS A FAMOUS STREET GUITARIST in AUSTIN during the 70's-80's-90's Up Until 2006. I was in YOUR Town...actuall NORTH at the RR JUNCTION (forget the name...) I was in JAIL in ROME, GEORGIA for "RIDING A FREIGHT TRAIN with out a TICKET!" I've recorded at MUSCLE SHOULS, in MENPHUS, PINE BLUFF, HOLLYWOOD & Played with BUCK OWENS in BACKERSFIELD back in 1992...A SALVATION ARMY MAJOR in BAKERSFIELD bought me a GUITAR & Introduced me to Buck....I've been WELL RECEIVED and TREATED WELL by PEOPLE who are SUCURE IN THEIR OWN LIFE...but PRETENDERS, PHONEYS & FAKIRS loathe my life-style!
DOES FLAT-CAR FRANK RIDE THE RAILS?
DOES THE MAD-MAN RIDE THE RAILS?
I suspect Man Man might.....BUT MOST up at BRITT are PLAY-ACTORS, FEEDING off the EUPHORIA of the ULTIMATE ZEN of RAIL-HOPPING!
So I am OBNOXIOUS, OPIONINATED. OLD. SMELLY. TALK LIKE A HILLBELLY!
SO, I AM & HAVE BEEN a SUCCESSFUL, HAPPY FREIGHT TRAIN RIDER 30 odd years...IN FACT, FIRST RODE a ROCK ISLAND BOXCAR from BENTON, ARKANSAS up to MAMPHIS, TENN. in 1964.
PEOPLE ALWAYS HATE SOMEONE THAT DOES NOT FIT THEIR PRE_CONCIEVED IDEAS.
A HOBO carrying a Guitar, a HAM RADIO, a LAP-TOP COMPUTER, with SLEEVED TATTOOED ARMS & HEAD...that TALKS LIKE A ARKANSAS WHITE TRASH HILLBELLY????? KILL IT!
However, UNTIL THESE SCATOLOGICAL SNOIDS are ROUNDED UP by the NYO/NAZI/FEMA Enforcers, and marched off the EXTERMINATION CAMPS, they can just GO ON....
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I am a TEXAN. Grew up at 2224 RIDGECREST CIRCLE, WACO, TEXAS. about a MILE from HEART O' TEXAS FAIR GROUNDS. I was PICKED on as a kid...LEARNED TO NEVER BACK DOWN, (Unless in the WRONG!)
Good 'Ol Waco, a town just across the Brazos River from Bellmeade, and the Bellmeade KATY yard where I used to Catch to San Antonio. I never stayed in the Salvation Army there, always had an American of African Descent family that I would stay with while in town. The father was an engineer for the KATY Railroad [Now UP].
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I HAVE BEEN A HAM RADIO OPERATOR since 1958.
To be exact why not give all your HAM Radio info, NO!, how about letting me do it for you;
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Frank is the BIG SHOT up in BRITT.
That's the only TRUE thing you have said in this thread!
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DOF-MAN TONY knows me
Actually his Road Name is DOG MAN TONY, I rode with him many times on the High-Line in the 1980's-1990's, and I Know what town he's from in New York State!
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DOES FLAT-CAR FRANK RIDE THE RAILS?
Frank has only rode a freight train 1 time in his life riding from Klamath Falls Oregon to Dunsmuir California in 1992.
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DOES THE MAD-MAN RIDE THE RAILS?
I rod continously since 1972 with a short break for the birth of both of my sons. I don't ride now for work, ust pleasure, and remenicing of old days! Although I will soon be steady on the road to do My Style of a Hobo Documentary.
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So I am OBNOXIOUS, OPIONINATED. OLD. SMELLY. TALK LIKE A HILLBELLY!
You write like you're on CRACK!
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 02-23-2008, 04:01 PM
Lets start from scratch here. No I dont ride the rails. I have a a full time job. I Work for a living. I have ridden in the past, never did enjoy as much as I thought. I do like the history of hobos. I have been going to britt now for over 15 years. Why do people think Im in charge. Im not. Im just another person at the jungle. There are very FEW fakes that show up at Britt. There have been old timers and young riders that have come to britt. I've never claimed to be a hobo, nor do I want to be. If you can't handle that, too bad. I've never seen you contribute anything to the convention, so you have no right or experience to complain about it. Many of the locals and "hobos at heart" put their all into the events and exhibits, while I tend to see all the "real hobos" sit around and get drunk and piss all over the place. So, I've seen both sides of the street. Come to Britt and prove me wrong, Please!
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 02-24-2008, 12:10 PM
I spent the night down at the jungle with Stretch, Burlington and a couple of railriders named Rick and Carla. The jungle is looking good, the trash is all picked up pretty much. We burned up a large portion of the junk firewood pile last night, maybe about half. The idea is to get rid of as many things that would attract negative attention as is possible. Trash is a major negative attention-getter. It's like throwing down your cans at a lay-up---just dumb behavior.
Both Stretch and Rick are working. Stretch has a temp job at a refrigerated warehouse that ships juice boxes and non-carbonated beverages. Rick is working at a concrete plant filling up ready-mix trucks with concrete and unloading hopper cars full of dry cement.
They made a major food score at a church-sponsored food bank. Each person got a couple of bags full of groceries, so now the jungle has plenty of chow. By the end of the week both guys will get a payday, so things should be prosperous for them pretty soon.
Because they are working, but living in the jungle, they'll be able to raise road money quickly. Stretch is talking about going to Amory in early April, so when he pulls stakes it's probable that Rick and Carla will move into the hooch.
I think it's kind of cool having people living in the jungle who share my ideas about keeping a clean camp. The place actually looks orderly and kind of "well kept."
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 02-24-2008, 12:54 PM
K-Bar - [ask Frank if you think I'm blowing things out of proportion] ANYTHING you can do to keep elijah666prophet, who is also boxcarro_a1, Off this board will hlp to kep it for REAL HOBO-TRAMPS!
Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 12-06-2007, 11:41 PM
I understand that it has been a long time since you were out there full time but did you ever stay at homeless shelters? Can I email you for questions?
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 12-07-2007, 10:47 PM
Fire away. I will try to answer all questions to the best of my ability.
I did stay in missions a few times, but I don't like staying there. The worst things about missions:
1.) Too many streamliners--they can't make it on their own, so they resort to trying to rip off somebody else.
2.) I only caught lice twice in my life, once on the U.S.S. Raliegh when some idiot brought lice back on board the ship from liberty and we all got infested; and once from the blankets I was issued in a mission.
3.) Missions have a shitload of rules. You can't do this, you can't do that. You can't smoke inside the building. You can't drink a beer. Who needs that? No thanks.
4.) When you need missions the most they are crammed full and have no more room, like if the temperature suddenly falls and there is an ice storm or a blizzard.
5.) I don't like sky pilots in general, regardless of what line they're selling. I do my communing with God out in the wide open spaces. I don't need some tight-ass with a Bible trying to tell be how I should live. My religious faith is my own. I can't see any reason to cram it down someone else's throat. If somebody asks me what I believe, and I feel like telling them, then we have a conversation about God, faith, moral conviction and so on. Otherwise, it's a waste of time and energy.
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 12-14-2007, 02:18 AM
hey... when its winter time dont forget your sleeping bag before you leave. its a pretty good thing to have with you when its fucking super cold.
soooooo cold!
san antonio-alpine was a dope ride though. even though i was a fucking icicle.
tuscon here i come!
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 12-15-2007, 04:49 PM
Rolling Nowhere, you are making me envious as shit. Which yard did you catch out from in San Antone? I was just up there this week checking out Kirby Yard.
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 12-16-2007, 11:51 AM
we caught out from kirby. it was a piece of cake. rode on the atlb with the tropicanas.
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 12-26-2007, 11:17 AM
let me telll you. the desert at night is fucking cold son!
my "20 degree" sleeping bag is a damn liar.
but it was better than no sleeping bag.
seems like the westbound trains dont like us very much...
hey kabar we should ride somewhere sometime soon... i might be back that way before too long.
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 12-27-2007, 10:56 PM
You must spread some reputation around befeore giving it to Kabar2 again.
I am sure he don't care but up some props. Who the fuck else deserves it?
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 12-27-2007, 11:24 PM
I started reading this thread a couple of years ago and took a lot of advice to heart. I read north bank fred's site and he seems to be downing Britt as a set up. Any insight on this? Is Amory still cool? I ask mostly because I want a CCG the honest way.
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 12-29-2007, 12:46 AM
HELLO! GREETINGS!!! BOXCARRO here/ NOW HOUSED! IN A SENIOR S.R.O in SAN FRANCISCO! Thinking about THROWING IT ALL AWAY and CATCHING OUT AGAIN!
I MISS TEXAS! I MISS PEOPLE WHO DO NOT TREAT ME LIKE A CLOWN due to my DEEP SOUTH ACCENT. I MISS AUSTIN STREET MUSIC SCENE! I MISS LIVING IN LAID-BACK SLOW AS MOLASSAS & FRIENDLY WACO! I MISS DENISON, GREESON COUNTY HOMELESS SHELTER-FRIENDLY HUMAN PEOPLE...I HATE FRISCO-FULL OF RICH YANKEE_NAZIS!
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 12-29-2007, 01:22 AM
As for MISSIONS, the GOSPEL RESCUE JESUS-LOVERS in RENO, Called COPS on me PUT ME IN JAIL, for TRESSPASSING! I carry a ALICE PACK, it usually weighs about 50 LBs. I am 60 Years old, 116 LBS and 62 INCHES TALL...5' 2" size 24" Waist. THE GOONS the HOME-GUARD at the RENO MISSION were MAD THAT THEY HAD TO PICK UP MY HEAVY BACK PACK & CARRY IT 6 FEET TO ME, i Shamed them...I CARRIED IT OVER 17.000 MILES ON MY BACK, & I'm half your size! THEY PUT ME IN JASIL! I RIDE THE RAILS because I AM A TOTALL ANARCOISM. I BELIEVE I THINK like THE OLD FOLKS that RAISED ME, GREAT GRANDMOTHER, Jennie Noble Parker Russel was DAURGHTER of COLE YOUNGER! My MOTHER-FULL BLOOD CHEROKEE, was KIN TO MYRA MAYBELLE SHIRLEY, (AKA "Belle Starr") Belle was NOT A INDIAN. SAM STARR was CHEROKEE. I AM OLD and HAVE TO PUSH BACK! I CAN NOT let these NIHILISTIC HEDONISTIC YOUNGSTER dog me! GOD DAMN these MONEY GRUBBING, EASY SLIDER, THIEVING, LYING YOUNG PUNKS! I AM A RIDER, I RIDE ALONE! I WILL LIVE & DIE by MY OWN FAITH in MY GOD OF THE HOBOES! "Only A Tramp!" I carry a BIBLE with me, I FIND BIBLES THROWN IN TRASH, OR LAYING ON THE GROUND, I RESCUE THEM, as I Would a POOR PUPPY or STRAY CAT! I enjoy READING, & I READ THE BIBLE, if NOTHING ELSE, Its A Familar Friend! A TICKET, A CITATION! Not EVEN a MISDEMENOR, in NORTH LITTLE ROCK, NOT EVEN )N RR PROPERTY has LOST ME MY DRIVER'S LICENSE! I PHONED HOME cause I LOST my BILLFOLD, THEY TOLD ME I WAS SUSPENDED, Would have to RETURN TO LITTLE ROCK-PULASKI COUNTY, GO TO JAIL, PAY $100.00 For RENINSRTATEMENT, GOD DAMN YANKEE NAZIS! It WAS NOT EVEN A MISDEMENER! Just a CITATION! I FOUND A 1971 DODGE RV for $450.00 doen in FREMONT! I was going to go back SNOWBIRDING, LIVE in the MOHAVE DESERT! Now I CANNOT GET MY DRIVER LICENSE! GODDAMN these PIGS!
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Merry Christmas you piece of Jewish Garbage
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These NAZI WHITE SUPREMIST JEW KILLERS are SPEWING FORTH VIRULENT MURDERS and DEFAMATION towards POOR OLD "REAL" RAILROAD RIDING PEOPLE, MYSELF. FLAT CAR FRANK & THE TEXAS MADMAN ARE POLICE / BULL/ SNITCHES not RIDERS. FLAT CAR FRANK had do a VIOLENT SEIZURE & HOSTILE TAKEOVER of the BRITT HOBO DAYS, 100 YEARS of HOBO TRADITION, gone down the drain, A DAMNED YANKEE_NAZI!
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Boxcarro, that is some bizarre shit right there, fella. Texas Mad Man has lived for years with Collinwood Kid , who is Jewish. Your beefs with people probably have more to do with your own personality and your own interactions with other people than with them being any sort of Yankee Nazis, etc. This is actually pretty funny, Tex is one of the most militant pro-liberals and anti-conservatives I've ever met. We are friends, sort of, but we do not agree on hardly anything when it comes to politics. I did drive 250 miles to go pick him up at the Highway 80 Rescue Mission up in Longview one time, and he and Stretch stayed at the Eureka Hilton about a month one winter.
I admire your ability to survive in the world of trainhopping, but I'm thinking that you need to let go of blaming other people for your problems and accept responsibility for yourself. If you can't get a Driver's License, that is nobody's fault but your own. Do whatever you have to do to rectify that problem, get another license and get on with life. Or not. It's up to you.
The truth is that 99% of the rest of the world finds it to be way too much work to hassle you and find ways to frustrate you. They just don't care that much one way or the other, they are busy dealing with their own lives. They are not responsible for you, and are not required to help you get what you want. Your life is all up to you. You aren't entitled to a thing. You know (or at least you ought to know, by now, at your age) that one either earns whatever one needs to live in this world, or learns to do without it.
"Leave no trace. Do no damage. Make no disturbance."
"Keep a Clean Camp."
"Take care of your own business, and let the rest of the world take care of its own."
These simple rules will allow you to to avoid 99.99% of conflict and problems in life. Frankly, I obey them because it is too much hassle to do otherwise.
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So Let's pick this one apart;
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I am a TEXAN. Grew up at 2224 RIDGECREST CIRCLE, WACO, TEXAS. about a MILE from HEART O' TEXAS FAIR GROUNDS. I was PICKED on as a kid...LEARNED TO NEVER BACK DOWN, (Unless in the WRONG!)
Good 'Ol Waco, a town just across the Brazos River from Bellmeade, and the Bellmeade KATY yard where I used to Catch to San Antonio. I never stayed in the Salvation Army there, always had an American of African Descent family that I would stay with while in town. The father was an engineer for the KATY Railroad [Now UP].
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I HAVE BEEN A HAM RADIO OPERATOR since 1958.
To be exact why not give all your HAM Radio info, NO!, how about letting me do it for you;
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Frank is the BIG SHOT up in BRITT.
That's the only TRUE thing you have said in this thread!
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DOF-MAN TONY knows me
Actually his Road Name is DOG MAN TONY, I rode with him many times on the High-Line in the 1980's-1990's, and I Know what town he's from in New York State!
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DOES FLAT-CAR FRANK RIDE THE RAILS?
Frank has only rode a freight train 1 time in his life riding from Klamath Falls Oregon to Dunsmuir California in 1992.
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DOES THE MAD-MAN RIDE THE RAILS?
I rod continously since 1972 with a short break for the birth of both of my sons. I don't ride now for work, ust pleasure, and remenicing of old days! Although I will soon be steady on the road to do My Style of a Hobo Documentary.
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So I am OBNOXIOUS, OPIONINATED. OLD. SMELLY. TALK LIKE A HILLBELLY!
You write like you're on CRACK!
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 02-23-2008, 04:01 PM
Lets start from scratch here. No I dont ride the rails. I have a a full time job. I Work for a living. I have ridden in the past, never did enjoy as much as I thought. I do like the history of hobos. I have been going to britt now for over 15 years. Why do people think Im in charge. Im not. Im just another person at the jungle. There are very FEW fakes that show up at Britt. There have been old timers and young riders that have come to britt. I've never claimed to be a hobo, nor do I want to be. If you can't handle that, too bad. I've never seen you contribute anything to the convention, so you have no right or experience to complain about it. Many of the locals and "hobos at heart" put their all into the events and exhibits, while I tend to see all the "real hobos" sit around and get drunk and piss all over the place. So, I've seen both sides of the street. Come to Britt and prove me wrong, Please!
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 02-24-2008, 12:10 PM
I spent the night down at the jungle with Stretch, Burlington and a couple of railriders named Rick and Carla. The jungle is looking good, the trash is all picked up pretty much. We burned up a large portion of the junk firewood pile last night, maybe about half. The idea is to get rid of as many things that would attract negative attention as is possible. Trash is a major negative attention-getter. It's like throwing down your cans at a lay-up---just dumb behavior.
Both Stretch and Rick are working. Stretch has a temp job at a refrigerated warehouse that ships juice boxes and non-carbonated beverages. Rick is working at a concrete plant filling up ready-mix trucks with concrete and unloading hopper cars full of dry cement.
They made a major food score at a church-sponsored food bank. Each person got a couple of bags full of groceries, so now the jungle has plenty of chow. By the end of the week both guys will get a payday, so things should be prosperous for them pretty soon.
Because they are working, but living in the jungle, they'll be able to raise road money quickly. Stretch is talking about going to Amory in early April, so when he pulls stakes it's probable that Rick and Carla will move into the hooch.
I think it's kind of cool having people living in the jungle who share my ideas about keeping a clean camp. The place actually looks orderly and kind of "well kept."
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 02-24-2008, 12:27 PM
TEX--ARE YOU ON?
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 02-24-2008, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 02-24-2008, 12:54 PM
K-Bar - [ask Frank if you think I'm blowing things out of proportion] ANYTHING you can do to keep elijah666prophet, who is also boxcarro_a1, Off this board will hlp to kep it for REAL HOBO-TRAMPS!
Report Postto ANSWER AGAINST those who HOPE ME DEAD! DOF-MAN TONY knows me, & I WAS A FAMOUS STREET GUITARIST in AUSTIN during the 70's-80's-90's Up Until 2006. I was in YOUR Town...actuall NORTH at the RR JUNCTION (forget the name...) I was in JAIL in ROME, GEORGIA for "RIDING A FREIGHT TRAIN with out a TICKET!" I've recorded at MUSCLE SHOULS, in MENPHUS, PINE BLUFF, HOLLYWOOD & Played with BUCK OWENS in BACKERSFIELD back in 1992...A SALVATION ARMY MAJOR in BAKERSFIELD bought me a GUITAR & Introduced me to Buck....I've been WELL RECEIVED and TREATED WELL by PEOPLE who are SUCURE IN THEIR OWN LIFE...but PRETENDERS, PHONEYS & FAKIRS loathe my life-style!
DOES FLAT-CAR FRANK RIDE THE RAILS?
DOES THE MAD-MAN RIDE THE RAILS?
I suspect Man Man might.....BUT MOST up at BRITT are PLAY-ACTORS, FEEDING off the EUPHORIA of the ULTIMATE ZEN of RAIL-HOPPING!
So I am OBNOXIOUS, OPIONINATED. OLD. SMELLY. TALK LIKE A HILLBELLY!
SO, I AM & HAVE BEEN a SUCCESSFUL, HAPPY FREIGHT TRAIN RIDER 30 odd years...IN FACT, FIRST RODE a ROCK ISLAND BOXCAR from BENTON, ARKANSAS up to MAMPHIS, TENN. in 1964.
PEOPLE ALWAYS HATE SOMEONE THAT DOES NOT FIT THEIR PRE_CONCIEVED IDEAS.
A HOBO carrying a Guitar, a HAM RADIO, a LAP-TOP COMPUTER, with SLEEVED TATTOOED ARMS & HEAD...that TALKS LIKE A ARKANSAS WHITE TRASH HILLBELLY????? KILL IT!
However, UNTIL THESE SCATOLOGICAL SNOIDS are ROUNDED UP by the NYO/NAZI/FEMA Enforcers, and marched off the EXTERMINATION CAMPS, they can just GO ON....
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 02-23-2008, 11:43 AM
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Good 'Ol Waco, a town just across the Brazos River from Bellmeade, and the Bellmeade KATY yard where I used to Catch to San Antonio. I never stayed in the Salvation Army there, always had an American of African Descent family that I would stay with while in town. The father was an engineer for the KATY Railroad [Now UP].
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Frank is the BIG SHOT up in BRITT.
That's the only TRUE thing you have said in this thread!
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DOF-MAN TONY knows me
Actually his Road Name is DOG MAN TONY, I rode with him many times on the High-Line in the 1980's-1990's, and I Know what town he's from in New York State!
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DOES FLAT-CAR FRANK RIDE THE RAILS?
Frank has only rode a freight train 1 time in his life riding from Klamath Falls Oregon to Dunsmuir California in 1992.
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DOES THE MAD-MAN RIDE THE RAILS?
I rod continously since 1972 with a short break for the birth of both of my sons. I don't ride now for work, ust pleasure, and remenicing of old days! Although I will soon be steady on the road to do My Style of a Hobo Documentary.
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So I am OBNOXIOUS, OPIONINATED. OLD. SMELLY. TALK LIKE A HILLBELLY!
You write like you're on CRACK!
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 02-23-2008, 04:01 PM
Lets start from scratch here. No I dont ride the rails. I have a a full time job. I Work for a living. I have ridden in the past, never did enjoy as much as I thought. I do like the history of hobos. I have been going to britt now for over 15 years. Why do people think Im in charge. Im not. Im just another person at the jungle. There are very FEW fakes that show up at Britt. There have been old timers and young riders that have come to britt. I've never claimed to be a hobo, nor do I want to be. If you can't handle that, too bad. I've never seen you contribute anything to the convention, so you have no right or experience to complain about it. Many of the locals and "hobos at heart" put their all into the events and exhibits, while I tend to see all the "real hobos" sit around and get drunk and piss all over the place. So, I've seen both sides of the street. Come to Britt and prove me wrong, Please!
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 02-24-2008, 12:10 PM
I spent the night down at the jungle with Stretch, Burlington and a couple of railriders named Rick and Carla. The jungle is looking good, the trash is all picked up pretty much. We burned up a large portion of the junk firewood pile last night, maybe about half. The idea is to get rid of as many things that would attract negative attention as is possible. Trash is a major negative attention-getter. It's like throwing down your cans at a lay-up---just dumb behavior.
Both Stretch and Rick are working. Stretch has a temp job at a refrigerated warehouse that ships juice boxes and non-carbonated beverages. Rick is working at a concrete plant filling up ready-mix trucks with concrete and unloading hopper cars full of dry cement.
They made a major food score at a church-sponsored food bank. Each person got a couple of bags full of groceries, so now the jungle has plenty of chow. By the end of the week both guys will get a payday, so things should be prosperous for them pretty soon.
Because they are working, but living in the jungle, they'll be able to raise road money quickly. Stretch is talking about going to Amory in early April, so when he pulls stakes it's probable that Rick and Carla will move into the hooch.
I think it's kind of cool having people living in the jungle who share my ideas about keeping a clean camp. The place actually looks orderly and kind of "well kept."
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 02-24-2008, 12:54 PM
K-Bar - [ask Frank if you think I'm blowing things out of proportion] ANYTHING you can do to keep elijah666prophet, who is also boxcarro_a1, Off this board will hlp to kep it for REAL HOBO-TRAMPS!
Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 12-06-2007, 11:41 PM
I understand that it has been a long time since you were out there full time but did you ever stay at homeless shelters? Can I email you for questions?
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 12-07-2007, 10:47 PM
Fire away. I will try to answer all questions to the best of my ability.
I did stay in missions a few times, but I don't like staying there. The worst things about missions:
1.) Too many streamliners--they can't make it on their own, so they resort to trying to rip off somebody else.
2.) I only caught lice twice in my life, once on the U.S.S. Raliegh when some idiot brought lice back on board the ship from liberty and we all got infested; and once from the blankets I was issued in a mission.
3.) Missions have a shitload of rules. You can't do this, you can't do that. You can't smoke inside the building. You can't drink a beer. Who needs that? No thanks.
4.) When you need missions the most they are crammed full and have no more room, like if the temperature suddenly falls and there is an ice storm or a blizzard.
5.) I don't like sky pilots in general, regardless of what line they're selling. I do my communing with God out in the wide open spaces. I don't need some tight-ass with a Bible trying to tell be how I should live. My religious faith is my own. I can't see any reason to cram it down someone else's throat. If somebody asks me what I believe, and I feel like telling them, then we have a conversation about God, faith, moral conviction and so on. Otherwise, it's a waste of time and energy.
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 12-14-2007, 02:18 AM
hey... when its winter time dont forget your sleeping bag before you leave. its a pretty good thing to have with you when its fucking super cold.
soooooo cold!
san antonio-alpine was a dope ride though. even though i was a fucking icicle.
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 12-15-2007, 04:49 PM
Rolling Nowhere, you are making me envious as shit. Which yard did you catch out from in San Antone? I was just up there this week checking out Kirby Yard.
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 12-16-2007, 11:51 AM
we caught out from kirby. it was a piece of cake. rode on the atlb with the tropicanas.
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 12-26-2007, 11:17 AM
let me telll you. the desert at night is fucking cold son!
my "20 degree" sleeping bag is a damn liar.
but it was better than no sleeping bag.
seems like the westbound trains dont like us very much...
hey kabar we should ride somewhere sometime soon... i might be back that way before too long.
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 12-27-2007, 10:56 PM
You must spread some reputation around befeore giving it to Kabar2 again.
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 12-27-2007, 11:24 PM
I started reading this thread a couple of years ago and took a lot of advice to heart. I read north bank fred's site and he seems to be downing Britt as a set up. Any insight on this? Is Amory still cool? I ask mostly because I want a CCG the honest way.
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 12-29-2007, 12:46 AM
HELLO! GREETINGS!!! BOXCARRO here/ NOW HOUSED! IN A SENIOR S.R.O in SAN FRANCISCO! Thinking about THROWING IT ALL AWAY and CATCHING OUT AGAIN!
I MISS TEXAS! I MISS PEOPLE WHO DO NOT TREAT ME LIKE A CLOWN due to my DEEP SOUTH ACCENT. I MISS AUSTIN STREET MUSIC SCENE! I MISS LIVING IN LAID-BACK SLOW AS MOLASSAS & FRIENDLY WACO! I MISS DENISON, GREESON COUNTY HOMELESS SHELTER-FRIENDLY HUMAN PEOPLE...I HATE FRISCO-FULL OF RICH YANKEE_NAZIS!
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 12-29-2007, 01:22 AM
As for MISSIONS, the GOSPEL RESCUE JESUS-LOVERS in RENO, Called COPS on me PUT ME IN JAIL, for TRESSPASSING! I carry a ALICE PACK, it usually weighs about 50 LBs. I am 60 Years old, 116 LBS and 62 INCHES TALL...5' 2" size 24" Waist. THE GOONS the HOME-GUARD at the RENO MISSION were MAD THAT THEY HAD TO PICK UP MY HEAVY BACK PACK & CARRY IT 6 FEET TO ME, i Shamed them...I CARRIED IT OVER 17.000 MILES ON MY BACK, & I'm half your size! THEY PUT ME IN JASIL! I RIDE THE RAILS because I AM A TOTALL ANARCOISM. I BELIEVE I THINK like THE OLD FOLKS that RAISED ME, GREAT GRANDMOTHER, Jennie Noble Parker Russel was DAURGHTER of COLE YOUNGER! My MOTHER-FULL BLOOD CHEROKEE, was KIN TO MYRA MAYBELLE SHIRLEY, (AKA "Belle Starr") Belle was NOT A INDIAN. SAM STARR was CHEROKEE. I AM OLD and HAVE TO PUSH BACK! I CAN NOT let these NIHILISTIC HEDONISTIC YOUNGSTER dog me! GOD DAMN these MONEY GRUBBING, EASY SLIDER, THIEVING, LYING YOUNG PUNKS! I AM A RIDER, I RIDE ALONE! I WILL LIVE & DIE by MY OWN FAITH in MY GOD OF THE HOBOES! "Only A Tramp!" I carry a BIBLE with me, I FIND BIBLES THROWN IN TRASH, OR LAYING ON THE GROUND, I RESCUE THEM, as I Would a POOR PUPPY or STRAY CAT! I enjoy READING, & I READ THE BIBLE, if NOTHING ELSE, Its A Familar Friend! A TICKET, A CITATION! Not EVEN a MISDEMENOR, in NORTH LITTLE ROCK, NOT EVEN )N RR PROPERTY has LOST ME MY DRIVER'S LICENSE! I PHONED HOME cause I LOST my BILLFOLD, THEY TOLD ME I WAS SUSPENDED, Would have to RETURN TO LITTLE ROCK-PULASKI COUNTY, GO TO JAIL, PAY $100.00 For RENINSRTATEMENT, GOD DAMN YANKEE NAZIS! It WAS NOT EVEN A MISDEMENER! Just a CITATION! I FOUND A 1971 DODGE RV for $450.00 doen in FREMONT! I was going to go back SNOWBIRDING, LIVE in the MOHAVE DESERT! Now I CANNOT GET MY DRIVER LICENSE! GODDAMN these PIGS!
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Default Re: The TYPE OF HATEFUL SPEWER from FLATCAR FRANKS "CLIQUE!" - 12-29-2007, 09:44 AM
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:46:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Send an Instant Message "TheTexasMadmanGrandDukeOfHobos"
Subject: Merry Christmas you piece of Jewish Garbage
To: boxcarhobo_a1@yahoo.com
Merry Christmas you piece of Jewish Garbage
The Texas Madman-Great Grand Duke Of Hobo/Tramps
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Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:39:53 -0000
From: "Frank"
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To: boxcarhobo_a1@yahoo.com
Subject: come and get meearn mor
Hey shit for brains... Why not come out in the
open you little faggot.
hiding behind the internet is so easy. Kiss my
ass fuckwad I see you in
real life, Ill kick your scrawny little ass all
over the place.
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Default Re: Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums - 12-29-2007, 10:01 AM
These NAZI WHITE SUPREMIST JEW KILLERS are SPEWING FORTH VIRULENT MURDERS and DEFAMATION towards POOR OLD "REAL" RAILROAD RIDING PEOPLE, MYSELF. FLAT CAR FRANK & THE TEXAS MADMAN ARE POLICE / BULL/ SNITCHES not RIDERS. FLAT CAR FRANK had do a VIOLENT SEIZURE & HOSTILE TAKEOVER of the BRITT HOBO DAYS, 100 YEARS of HOBO TRADITION, gone down the drain, A DAMNED YANKEE_NAZI!
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- 12-29-2007, 11:01 AM
Boxcarro, that is some bizarre shit right there, fella. Texas Mad Man has lived for years with Collinwood Kid , who is Jewish. Your beefs with people probably have more to do with your own personality and your own interactions with other people than with them being any sort of Yankee Nazis, etc. This is actually pretty funny, Tex is one of the most militant pro-liberals and anti-conservatives I've ever met. We are friends, sort of, but we do not agree on hardly anything when it comes to politics. I did drive 250 miles to go pick him up at the Highway 80 Rescue Mission up in Longview one time, and he and Stretch stayed at the Eureka Hilton about a month one winter.
I admire your ability to survive in the world of trainhopping, but I'm thinking that you need to let go of blaming other people for your problems and accept responsibility for yourself. If you can't get a Driver's License, that is nobody's fault but your own. Do whatever you have to do to rectify that problem, get another license and get on with life. Or not. It's up to you.
The truth is that 99% of the rest of the world finds it to be way too much work to hassle you and find ways to frustrate you. They just don't care that much one way or the other, they are busy dealing with their own lives. They are not responsible for you, and are not required to help you get what you want. Your life is all up to you. You aren't entitled to a thing. You know (or at least you ought to know, by now, at your age) that one either earns whatever one needs to live in this world, or learns to do without it.
"Leave no trace. Do no damage. Make no disturbance."
"Keep a Clean Camp."
"Take care of your own business, and let the rest of the world take care of its own."
These simple rules will allow you to to avoid 99.99% of conflict and problems in life. Frankly, I obey them because it is too much hassle to do otherwise.
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